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my new torts
Posted: 23/07/2010 by scottia

Hi, here is a picture of my 2 new russian torts,  they are just over 3 years old and the person i bought them from was keeping them in a viv and also lived in a flat so probs did not get a chance to get out much, i have now got them in a  large indoor rabbit cage with the soil and sand , i wanted to ask one is abit more lumpier on the shell than the other one, is this due to any health problem i should know, the lumpier looking ones beak (don't know correct name) is over grown a touch and hags down over his bottom lip a touch, is this some thing the vet will have to sort or will he grind it down himself, i have got cuttle fish in the cage aswell which i doubt they would have seen before either.  The picture is of them out side in the garden but still in their cage lapping up the sunshine, i place the bed area under the shade of the kids trampoline so they have a cooler spot to goto if needed, then bring the cage back in later in the day, this is just until i get their new outside enclosure sorted out as i have just got them.

 

thanks scott

Re: my new torts
Posted: 23/07/2010 by tpgAli

Hi Scott,

Thanks for the pics. The one on the left especially looks like he has a big growth ring and this is due to being overfed. Horsfields are renowned pigs when it comes to food and because these two were kept in a viv where temps soar the appetite builds. You really need to be cruel to be kind and not feed them everyday, i only feed mine 5 times a week as in the wild they only spend a few months of the year active and eating and this is why wild tortoises are generally smaller then captive bred ones. As for the beak i find the males are longer and more prominent than the females, any chance you could send a pic of the beak and also the tale end so we can see if they are big enough to be sexed.

Feed them on a rock or concrete slab as these help to keep both the beak and nails trim.

Ali

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by scottia

Hi, thanks for the reply. Do you mean the one which looks like it has a white ring all the way round its shell.  I have tried to get picks for you but my camera is not good at close ups,   as i say i have only had them for a couple of days now and have fed them on nothing but weeds, as well as the previous owner keeping them in a viv i think they were also feed pellet food.  Any advice you can give me on feeding would be a big help - how often how much etc, This is my first time keeping tortoises and have already read so much usefull info and thats why when i got them i put them straight into a large cage instead of a viv, i want to  give them a wonderfull new home so am very gratefull for all help and advice.

 

thanks again

scott

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by tpgAli

Hi Scott,


Yes thats the one i meant but obviously you need to treat them both the same. You are already doing a brilliant job and its good you have done your homework regarding their husbandry needs. Weeds are the best diet and you need to feed a variety. Dandelions, Sow Thistle, Clover (both pink and white varieties), Dead Nettle, Vetch, Plantain (wide and thin leaf).


These are just off the top of my head and the ones that i tend to use as we have loads around here. You really dont need to feed them much just a couple of leaves per tortoise per feed which should only be ONCE a day as i know some people feed theirs twice. As i said in my last post i only feed mine 4-5 times a week.


Ali

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by VivTPG

Hi Scott, they are lovely torts.

An excellent site to look on for advice on tort foods, eg garden plants and weeds is www.thetortoisetable.org.uk , its specifically designed for torts!

Vivienne

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by scottia

Hi thanks for that i will check that site out, i need to do some more work on the food side as i am really unsure what weeds to pick and i dont want to give them something which will harm them,

i have done some checks on them to day and they are both around 11.5cm (shell lenght) and their is a difference in weight the one with the white round its shell is heaveir,  that ones is 329grams and the other is only 323grams, they are over 3 years so does the lenght and weights seem to okay to you guys, obviously the heavier one has been eating more, and i will now keep a close eye one them when feeding and weight them every week.

thanks again for your help

scott

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by scottia

Hi Ali thanks for yor help, what did you make of the pictures, i know they are not very clear but deos the beak look okay to you or is it overgrown, i have now put in a concrete stone which i will put their food on, and i dont suppose you could tell from the pictures what sex they are and i have no idea how you check, the person i got them from said they were male and female, but i dont think they really new what was best for them never mind how to sex them. hopefully things will be better for them now.

 

thanks scott

 

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by tpgAli

Hi Scott,

The pics are not clear enough to sex them and they still may be too small anyway. Males have a long tale that they curl up under the shell and females have short stumpy tales, as for the beak see how it goes and as long as he/she is eating ok then the concrete slab should help. Is there any chance you could send a clearer pic of both the tale ends and beak?

Ali

Re: my new torts
Posted: 24/07/2010 by scottia

Hi, thanks for your reply, my goodness that is a hard picture to get, these ones are slightly better but dont know if you will be able to tell or not as they are still not great. I could not get one of the beak but he/she has been eating fine and does not seem to be causing any bother but i will keep a close eye on it.

thanks

scott

Re: my new torts
Posted: 25/07/2010 by tpgAli

Hi Scott,

The pics arent really that clear im afraid. Are you taking them with a mobile? It might be better to send them through to my email at least that way i should be able to zoom in. Can you send them to me at ali@tortoise-protection-group.ork.uk

Ali

Re: my new torts
Posted: 31/07/2010 by jack

hi scott

If you can get a pic when there tails are out the one on the rigth looks like a male to me but very hard to tell off the pics need better pics if poss

 

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