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Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 09/02/2016 by J. Thomas

Hi all, I have just got a spur thigh 6 month old hatchling. I did lots of research before getting him and hoped I had done a good job. But since getying him a few days ago he is sleeping a huge amount and not eating. I have seen they can sleep a lot but he slept for over 18 hours the other day! He is kept in a large tortoise table with top soil substrate and a mega ray combined light at one end. There are flower pots, a hide, a surace for food and a water dish. He has come from a breeder but he was in a vivarium with a heat mat. He was also being fed tortoise pellets along with fresh. I know the pellets arent recommended but i i am giving him these (along with fresh mixed salad as recommended for their winter diet) to  try and encourage him to eat. my tortoise weeds are growing inside but not ready yet. I have read vivs and the feed aren't good but now I am worried the change in environment may have shocked him?


Also, I have been bathing him each day and 3 times times he has done a green poo and one time  he had the white discharge which was loose, not gritty, but he didn't do that today.

 He burys down at night beneath a hide ir in a flower pot. 

 Am I worrying too much or does anyone recommend anything? Many thanks, Jess

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 09/02/2016 by Tom

Hello Jess,


Is the Megaray in the lamp stand in the photo? & what is the temp' at tortoise level at the hot spot ?

I'm surprised a breeder was using a viv,' even more so the use of a heat mat. 

What is in Box 10 of the A10 Certificate ?

Regards,
Tom

You state "slept ..18 hours" - how long per day is the Mega' on ?

Regards,
Tom

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 09/02/2016 by J. Thomas

Hi tom, I will check the cert 10. No that is just a normal light as the corner of the room he is in is a little dark. The mega lamp is shining the light in the corner, I will take a better pic. I turned the lamp on at 7am to encourage him to wake up as he had gone to bed at 7pm the previous evening. I left him but woke him at 12.30 as I was worried. I turn the light off again when he goes to bed around 6-7pm so it is on for 12 hours. I have only used an old thermometer to check and I am dubious about its accuracy so getting a new, more sensitive one tomorrow. Have put better image up now. 

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 09/02/2016 by Tom

Thank you,

Ideally move the Megaray a few inches further into the table ((keeping it angled at 90 deg.) the warmth should reach it a bit quicker. You can dispense with the other light. If the Mega is 100W it should be 1' above your tort.
12 hours of heat/lt. is plenty. A digital thermo' with a probe is best.

Faeces as described are fine.

You are doing as recommended, it's just a matter of fine tuning. They do sleep a lot.

There are dandelions in sheltered places. I'd avoid pellets. Using a propagator will speed up your seedlings.

Tom

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 09/02/2016 by J. Thomas

Thank you so much for your advice tom. I will go looking for dandilions and try to speed up my seedlings. So I should move the lamp more into the middle of the table  if possible?  The bulb is 30cm above tort table currently. Will also get a better thermometer tomorrow to check temp. Thank you again, jess

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 09/02/2016 by Tom

A pleasure Jess.

Not the middle, as you want a hot end & a cool end, but it looks very tight to the corner in the pic..

Yes it's best if you can get off salad leaves, as they're addictive, & very low in roughage.

Tom

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 10/02/2016 by J. Thomas

Hi Tom, we have moved the light so further in but as the box is long there is still a cooler area. He has been up earlier today and been romping around although I still haven't seen him eating. Will go and hunt dandelions and I think I have dog violets in the garden which I have seen they like (will check identification first). Also placed a plastic cover over my seedlings to act as a propagater. Thank you again for your advice on this site, is so reassuring to get proper information.

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 10/02/2016 by J. Thomas

Great news! Horatio is up and about today and has devoured a whole dandelion flower and a campanula flower, both I found growing in my garden! He even had another nip at his cuttlefish and is having a good romp around his table!! Thank you for the lighting advice, it seems to have helped a lot.

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 10/02/2016 by Tom

That's good,

Did you find the A10 Cert. ?

Smack the cuttlebone on a brick & shatter it. Put a small bit in, they can gnaw it easier.

Tom

Re: Spur thigh hatchling sleeping lots and not eating
Posted: 12/02/2016 by J. Thomas

Ok thanks for tip. Yes checked cert and it says UK in box 10. The guy has been breeding them for 12 years which is why I was a bit confused about the different advice. Horatio is more lively today but still not eating. Had a bit of cress which I know is not ideal but just thought he might go for a stronger flavour. Still, I guess he is just getting used to the change? Nw thermometer says basking area is 30degrees and cool end is 20 degrees.

 

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